[frblckstr]

Seems to are going to try it

http://www.nikkansports.com/entertainment/...217-576720.html

100+ members onstage

[wil]

I wonder if all 100+ girls will perform River...? Dance

Seriously, I think that would be cool to watch them do the beginning of River, with 100+ girls doing the AKB version of Stomp on stage.

[DarkScorpion]

The stage is going to collapse!

[Gorm]

What if they hit the natural frequence of the stage?

[LurkingAnonymous]

LOL, and to think I believed the stage was already too crowded when back in 2007 they decided to bring over all the members. They sure know how to outdo themselves.

[WillR]

I hope they don't sing RIVER...
In a Kouhaku performance, the quality of the singing counts too

And, if ALL the girls are there, having only the senbatsu singing most parts would seem stupid

But, then, thinking better, RIVER would be better than repeating Aitakatta (it would be carved forever in AKB like Love Machine for MM)...

This post has been edited by WillR: 18 December 2009 - 04:14 AM

[Tuhis]

WillR, on Dec 17 2009, 09:11 PM, said:

(it would be carved forever in AKB like Love Machine for MM)...

I thought it already was.

[Inwe]

WillR, on Dec 18 2009, 02:11 AM, said:

I hope they don't sing RIVER...
In a Kouhaku performance, the quality of the singing counts too

And, if ALL the girls are there, having only the senbatsu singing most parts would seem stupid

But, then, thinking better, RIVER would be better than repeating Aitakatta (it would be carved forever in AKB like Love Machine for MM )...

I am most certain they will sing RIVER. It is their most successful single to date. The rest 100+ members can do the performance army style, no singing needed, while the senbatsu members can be the platoon leader. I'm hoping for an epic performance. Hopefully they won't lipsync. Practice hard AKB! I can't wait...

[BluCherri]

Or they could do a medley where they do RIVER, kimi no and hikoukigumo...that'd be awesome. With ske added in, in various places in the lineup...or add tsuyoki to the list and then perform one song big together at the end like...akb sanjou.

[bokchoi]

^that would be so cool.

[Inwe]

AKB Sanjou is very appropiate for AKB's Kouhaku performance, especially if they are going all out with all the members. However, what about SKE? They should've sing "We are SKE!!! The Nagoya sister group of AKB" instead of AKB Sanjou. But then, I think the RIVER shouting of EI KEI BIIII FORTY EIGHT!! is enough to make a mark on Kouhaku.

This description I've read from H!O tracker made me lol so hard, mainly because the red team rarely won and most likely won't win this year either.

Quote

Acchan having a quarrel with Okada about the Kohaku-Utagassen at a public bathhouse(*).
Okada says "WHITE team will win this year, you know", Acchan opposes "No. RED team will".
Then they've promised each other. If WHITE team wins, Acchan must have a sleep with Okada. If RED team wins, Okada must have his head close-cropped.

This post has been edited by Inwe: 20 December 2009 - 01:27 AM

[DarkScorpion]

Tuhis, on Dec 17 2009, 09:03 PM, said:

WillR, on Dec 17 2009, 09:11 PM, said:

(it would be carved forever in AKB like Love Machine for MM)...

I thought it already was.

Yup, it is. Do the artists get to pick their own songs or is it the Kouhaku people who decide it? Because I'm sure Akimoto won't be so stupid do let them do Aitakatta again.

I will go for either RIVER or medley.

[BluCherri]

There's no evidence for anything I say in this post

I think what probably happens is they present what they want to do to kouhaku and they then approve it or not...seems most likely to me anyway.

[LurkingAnonymous]

You guys got it right when you guessed they would most likely perform River. Well, sort of...
Here's a newspaper scan listing some of this year's participants coupled with their respective songs. The same list can also be found on Kouhaku's official website, now that I'm looking at it, so it pretty much confirms its veracity.



As you can see, AKB is said to be going to perform something called "River Surprise! Kouhaku Remix", which by the sound of it seems to be River and Namida Surprise rolled into a single performance. Here's hoping it'll be good, those two songs are so different on so many aspects it might prove hard to fit them together.

[BluCherri]

using the word 'surprise' could mean some other song(s) are in the medley too...doing a double pun?
Anyway I think it's gonna be awesome to see how they do this CAN'T WAIT!

[lolcat]

Ugh... why Namida surprise though? I don't like songs about birthdays, they are lame!

They should've done a remix of RIVER and Tobenai Agehachou (although it wouldn't make sense at all)

[LurkingAnonymous]

Why not? River and Namida Surprise represent their two best selling singles to date, and don't forget they are also the ones that received the largest promotional campaigns of all so they must have reached a much larger audience than the rest.
Since Kouhaku is a major television event attracting huge numbers of viewers every year, it can only be a wise choice for them to mark their appearance with a couple of songs that can be easily recognized even by someone who isn't strictly into idols. As much as I like Aitakatta, it's at least a safer bet than, say, performing that song again.

This post has been edited by LurkingAnonymous: 22 December 2009 - 03:38 PM

[Inwe]

As much as I love them to perform more than one song, I really hope they'll make a good medley. When you do medley, it is important that the time given to do medley is long enough. If not, it'll be like just 5 seconds for one song and it won't make sense to the viewers, especially if the viewer never heard the songs before.

[Winter]

So I guess this Kouhaku thing is a big deal.

[richardthebrave]

Inwe, on Dec 22 2009, 11:41 AM, said:

As much as I love them to perform more than one song, I really hope they'll make a good medley. When you do medley, it is important that the time given to do medley is long enough. If not, it'll be like just 5 seconds for one song and it won't make sense to the viewers, especially if the viewer never heard the songs before.

Don't fret, they probably would have a good one. The medley they sang in another kouhaku-like show (Dream Live 2008) had a good selection.

@wil - yeah it is a big deal

[LurkingAnonymous]

richardthebrave, on Dec 22 2009, 05:36 AM, said:

The medley they sang in another kouhaku-like show (Dream Live 2008) had a good selection.

Didn't know about that. Do you have a video of their performance?

[richardthebrave]

LurkingAnonymous, on Dec 22 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

richardthebrave, on Dec 22 2009, 05:36 AM, said:

The medley they sang in another kouhaku-like show (Dream Live 2008) had a good selection.

Didn't know about that. Do you have a video of their performance?

AKB48 in Dream Live 2008

[Inwe]

AKB48 didn't do their AKB48 shout of RIVER in MSSL 2009, it really disappoints me. I'm really hoping they'll do it in Kouhaku.

[frblckstr]

^ Yeah to me its a big part of 'RIVER' if they do not do it in Kouhaku either, they have failed to me.

[Inwe]

AKB48 will perform after Hamasaki Ayumi and EXILE. Hopefully they will boost the ratings for when AKB48 perform.

Kouhaku Official Website

[Inwe]

(The First Half)
1. ayumi hamasaki “Rule“
2. EXILE “Someday”
3. AKB48 “RIVER Suprise! Kouhaku Remix”
4. flumpool　“Hoshi ni Negai wo”
5. NYC　boys “Kouhaku 60th Anniversary NYC Special”
6. ikimono-gakari “YELLl”
7. Godai Natsuko “Shinobu Ame”
8. Takeshi Kitayama “Tsurugisan”
9. GIRL NEXT DOOR “Infinity”
10 .Jero “Umiyuki”
11. Nana Mizuki “Shinai”
12. FUNKY MONKEY BABYS “Hero”
13. Nakamura Mitsuko “Kawachi otokobushi”
14. PornoGraffitti “Animarossa”
15. Yoshimi Tendo “Hanaikada”
16. Kenichi Mikawa “Sasoriza no onna 2009”
17. Fuyumi Sakamoto “Mata kimini koishiteru”
18. Hosokawa Takashi “Boukyou jyonkara”
19. Ai Otsuka “Is”
20. Remioromen “Konayuki”
21. Kawanaka Miyuki “Futarizake”
22. Shinichi Mori “Hana to Chou”


(The Second Half)
23. Yuusuke “Himawari”
24. aiko “Anokono yume”
25. Hideaki Tokunaga “Kowarekake no Radio”
26. Ayaka Hirahara “Mio amore”
27. TOKIO “Taiyouto sabakuo bara”
28. Junko Akimoto “Aino mamade…”
29. Perfume　“One room disco”
30. Tohoshinki - Stand by U
31. Mizumori Kaori “Akino miyajima”
32. Hiroshi Itsuki “Tsuioku”
33. Kimura Kaela “Butterfly”
34. Alice “Champion”
35. Mika Nakashima “Nagareboshi”
36. Yuzu “Aitai”
37. Angela Aki “Tegami ~Haikei Juugo No Kimi E~”
38. Akira Fuse “MY WAY”
39. Sachiko Kobayashi “Manyou koiuta aa kimi matsuto”
40. Masaharu Fukuyama “Hatsukoi”
41. Koda Kumi “2009 Kouhaku KODA Special”
42. Arashi “ArashixKouhaku Special Medley”
43. Kobukuro “STAY”
44. Akiko Wada “Mou ichido futari de aitai”
45. Hikawa Kiyoshi “Tokimekino rumba”
46. Ishikawa Sayuri “Tsugaru kaikyou fuyu geshiki”
47. ayaka “Minna sorano shita”
48. SMAP “Sotto Kyutto~Sekai ni Hitotsu Dake no Hana”
49. DREAMS COME TRUE “Sono sakihe ~Kouhaku Special Version~”
50. Saburo Kitajima “Nenrin”

Source: Kouhaku Official Website
Translation: linhkawaii & smiley @ OneTVXQ.com
Credits: OneTVXQ.com { One World. One Red Ocean. One TVXQ! }

[zabitan]

Bah! Their appearance was pretty short. I think it was only 72 members. They did a bit of River and a bit of Namida Surprise.

Maybe they will appear again in the background, but who knows.

[richardthebrave]

yeah saw that too, it's already up in youtube. for those who havent seen in yet, here is the link

AKB48 in 60th Kouhaku 2009

the total time of their appearance plus the short talk is 3 minutes and 36 seconds

[yayaomo]

thanks, richarda dn zabitan for updates.

edit: They didnt AKB48 neither RIVER, what did they yell?

+ Aachan's clothes change
+ Positioned as the letters "AKB" on stage
+ The girl announing "Riba Sapuraizu kouhaku rimikusu, dozo"

- Too short
- No epic shouts (Mae mae, river, akb48, otanjoubi omedetou)

Momusu had more time when they presented in kouhaku

[Inwe]

My reactions:
- Not liking the first outfits. I want army-themed uniform. I guess that's because they are two-layered clothes...
- Their appearance time is too short.
- 72 members is good enough to bring the AKB-army point to the viewers.
- I WANT MY "AKB48" SHOUT!!! They didn't do it in MSSL and they didn't do it in Kouhaku. Disappointed...
- The medley is good enough. At least they didn't try to mix 3817428721 songs into a 2 minute medley.
- Love when they did those alphabet thingy.

[hamburger]

Meh, it was alright. The River part was nothing special but the Namida Surprise part was better. I think they should've worn the MSSL costumes.

EDIT - just noticed some members made an appearance in SMAP's performance too, they come in at the end

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Q6cte0KWHAA

This post has been edited by ucla10: 01 January 2010 - 12:37 AM

[zabitan]

Overall, I was disappointed in both the Music Station and Kouhaku appearances. Maybe I expect too much, but the time was way too short in both. I mean, really, they didn't even perform a full song in reality.

In general, both shows were a bit of a letdown. The selection of artists altogether wasn't very exciting, from a girl pop point of view. Other than AKB, Perfume, GIRL NEXT DOOR, Queen Ayu, Kumi Koda, and Ai Otsuka there was nothing to get excited over. To be honest, even a little Hello Project wouldn't have hurt!

Where were Amuro Namie, BoA, or even SPEED? The good old days are certainly over. I remember when Music Station Super Live was an event to look forward to and rewatch over and over again, but those days are gone.

The CDTV special is usually better because the guests have more screen time. But lately the guests have been suckin hard.

[BluCherri]

They yelled 'aka' which means red because they are in the red group.

ALSO REPLACING ERENA FOR RENA IS ACTUALLY NOT ON THIS IS RIDICULOUS!? ERENA IS A SENBATSU MEMBER FOR RIVER SHE SHOULD DAMNWELL GET HER PLACE!!!
They have her taking off yuko's dress for goodness sake!!!!

[Chanda]

pretty short appearance >_<
the AKB48 - Special Medley (Japan Record Awards) was a bit better i thought with The shout for RIVER

[PrivateLaughter]

BluCherri, on Dec 31 2009, 04:40 PM, said:

They yelled 'aka' which means red because they are in the red group.

ALSO REPLACING ERENA FOR RENA IS ACTUALLY NOT ON THIS IS RIDICULOUS!? ERENA IS A SENBATSU MEMBER FOR RIVER SHE SHOULD DAMNWELL GET HER PLACE!!!
They have her taking off yuko's dress for goodness sake!!!!

Oh, then I really saw Rena o.o?! I thought my eyes just tricked me...
But now that they are becoming more popular we can hope for next years Kouhaku to be better~

[richardthebrave]

the first person who finds Ono gets a kick in the balls from me as a gift


pic from Mihipyon of S48





what i like about this is that BML IS ON DA HOUSE!!!!! HELL YEAH!!!

[zabitan]

HAHA!!! Erena is pretty easy to spot! And BML is right in the front!!!!

Well, happy new year to all and to all a good night! It's already one hour into the new year here in the Holy Land, I mean, Loli Land.

[Inwe]

zabitan, on Dec 31 2009, 10:37 PM, said:

Overall, I was disappointed in both the Music Station and Kouhaku appearances. Maybe I expect too much, but the time was way too short in both. I mean, really, they didn't even perform a full song in reality.
[...]

Amuro Namie always skip Kouhaku invitation, she rather spend time with her kid. I'm happy for her though, even if the fangirl in me want her to perform.

MSSL has been a Johnny/THSK fest for me (just look at the audience!) and Kouhaku is seriously better as an enka show. What the fuck with the frikkin only 2 minutes performance for AKB?! They are the best selling girl group of this year! As for the red team, it shows that they didn't even make an effort to have new blood in it, I mean they could've invite Chatmonchy or SCANDAL to spice things more.

The best performance of AKB48 for this end of year shows are Japan Record Awards hands down. I don't agree with AKB48 should've wear MSSL costumes, I like that they have different costumes for each performance, it gives more fresh image and shows that AKB48 is not as cheap as H!P. But I agree with the part that Namida Suprise was better, if not for the sheer amount of members, better outfits and better choreography (the girls forming for letter A K B is so lovely).

It's new year here and I'm ranting about girl groups, I'm such a fangirl extraordinaire.

This post has been edited by Inwe: 01 January 2010 - 02:30 AM

[frblckstr]

Bleh.

To short and no stomping the stage, unflattering first costumes.
They should have learned from MM that changing costumes onstage nerver really works.

The 'A K B' ketters was a nice touch.

[Inwe]

ucla10, on Dec 31 2009, 10:23 PM, said:

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Q6cte0KWHAA

Forgot to mention, haters gonna hate, but I think SMAP actually does a good job in doing the tribute. They work their ass hard and they actually are big fan of MJ. Kudos to them. I like the HEAL THE WORD part in the end too, it's a nice touch.

[PrivateLaughter]

Maybe it makes someone happy but Ayumi Hamasaki didn't get much more time than AKB...

[DarkScorpion]

richardthebrave, on Dec 31 2009, 01:50 PM, said:

the total time of their appearance plus the short talk is 3 minutes and 36 seconds

It is still 3 minutes and 36 seconds more than H!P and that is all I care about.

[hamburger]

Anyone know if Sayaka made it into the SMAP performance? I can't tell from the video but I hope she didn't miss it cause she was going to get too emotional over MJ.

Inwe, on Jan 1 2010, 03:15 AM, said:

I don't agree with AKB48 should've wear MSSL costumes, I like that they have different costumes for each performance, it gives more fresh image and shows that AKB48 is as cheap as H!P.

Yeah I see what you're saying. I just thought the MSSL costumes were a lot better.

[Inwe]

PrivateLaughter, on Jan 1 2010, 12:26 AM, said:

Maybe it makes someone happy but Ayumi Hamasaki didn't get much more time than AKB...

The queen of J-Pop is declining, like H!P. She even had to apologize for her own performance.

[bangaboy]

Inwe, on Jan 1 2010, 03:29 AM, said:

PrivateLaughter, on Jan 1 2010, 12:26 AM, said:

Maybe it makes someone happy but Ayumi Hamasaki didn't get much more time than AKB...

The queen of J-Pop is declining, like H!P. She even had to apologize for her own performance.

Did she???
Well, maybe it's time for the new queen....
Since AKB48 can't become a queen (queens????), I vote for my fave J-Pop Singer Mai Kuraki, which I'm sure many will disagree..

This post has been edited by bangaboy: 01 January 2010 - 02:55 AM